Malaysia Multimedia University Law Graduates are Exempted from CLP Exam
By admin | May 15th, 2009 | Category: Chambering, Legal Career, Malaysian Law News |
On May 6, we were told by one of our readers that the law graduates of Malaysia Multimedia University (MMU) is now exempted from the Certificate of Legal Practise (CLP) Exam. In fact, the reader came to know about this from a student’s blog .
After doing some preliminary verification, we immediately posted a thread at eLawyer Facebook announcing this ”gospel”. To our surprise, in less than 2 days we received a total of 22 comments on the thread which consist of mixture feedback (some welcome, some disappointed, some happy about it and some were upset comments).
On 14 May, based on a reliable unofficial source, MMU have in fact received the exemption letter from the Legal Profession Qualifying Board few weeks ago. They have communicated this information to the existing students. However, till today there is yet any official announcement on this matter. We believe this is due to the fact that such exemption is only effective and valid after the same have been gazetted per Section 3 of the Legal Profession Act, like what happen in UUM case.
We were further told that such exemption will be reviewed by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board every 2 years.
Currently there are few hundreds law students studying in the Law School of MMU, which is located at Malacca. MMU (owned by the largest telco - TM Malaysia Berhad), the 1st government-approved private university started its 1st campus at Cyberjaya which focused in providing IT related courses in 1996.
The 1st batch of (about 39) law students graduated in 2008 from MMU.
In view of such exemption and limited admission in the law schools of local public universities, we believe there will be even more students enrolling for the law course in MMU.
Below are the admission requirement (reproduce from MMU website):
For Bachelor of Laws (Honours), the minimum qualification is as follows:
STPM with at least 3 Cs AND a minimum of 5 Credits for the subjects taken at SPM inclusive of English; OR
Related diploma from a recognized institution by Senate AND a minimum of 5 Credits for the subjects taken at SPM inclusive of English; OR
Any other qualification equivalent to (a) or (b) and approved by the Senate.
For candidates to be qualified and be called to the Bar, candidates MUST have credits in Bahasa Malaysia at SPM examination or they should have been exempted from the Bahasa Malaysia Qualifying Examination conducted by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board.
If this is true, it will mark an unprecedent milestone in Malaysia legal education history, whereby MMU will be the 1st private university in Malaysia obtaining exemption of CLP exam for its law graduates.
Would this mean that ATC College or Brickfields Asia College which have a longer history in providing law programme will be exempted too if one day they are upgradeted to private univeristy status and decided to offer 4 years law course? what about those law schools who have obtained college university status, e.g. Taylor College University?
100% disagree..thats all i can say..
too many lawyers now in our country..
If they don’t get the education here, they will get it elsewhere and still practice if they choose too, which many are not actually. Turnover are high all around. So, for me, it is a mixed feeling as most of the one in market are not as knowledgeable as they should and it does not have anything to do with too many of them at all as most law graduates do not became lawyers but legal officers and advisors…
What a ridiculous things, this is lowering the standard required for to be a lawyer. CLP served as a control in the amount of lawyers as well as a mechanism of quality control the country, by exempting particular students from CLP test will just flood the market as student after acquiring the degree will straight qualified as lawyer, then how and who can guarantee of their skill and knowledge required in the Legal Field? Furthermore how can it be fair to those student who had done external course of LLB?
i disagree with the post stated saying that atc & taylors should get the same exemption as the law students in Multimedia University. The answer is pretty simple. For your information, in ATC and Taylors College, the course structure is UK based & it is different. (3 years) The students do not learn Malaysian Law subjects and Malaysian based like in Multimedia University. Although Multimedia University is a private university, we cannot compare and make assumptions that their course structures are the same.. The law students in Multimedia University learned as how other Public universities as well ( uia, um, etc ) and the law course in Multimedia University is 4 years same as other universities either so logically, why would their students sit for CLP? They are going to learn the same whole thing anyway. What i have noted is that, as they are exempted from CLP, the students must achieve certain requirements to go for training after graduate and at the same time, they can do their chambering as well. Hence, the statement which stated that they are lowering the standards required to be a lawyer does not make sense. Besides that i have also heard that they won the moot competition at the international level in Hong Kong so, in my opinion, we shouldn’t make any irrelevant speculations just because they are new in the course. The students might be better than other law students in public universities perhaps. who knows.
I disagree with the statements given which point out the view that this exemption will caused flood to the legal world and that the students who got exempted might not be competent enough to practice. From the facts that I’ve received, the students need to complete a legal training after graduated which will be planned out by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board as to receive a certificate in order for them to practice. Upon receiving the certificate after finishing their legal training then only they can start practicing. I’m sure that after finishing the legal training which is conducted by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board themselves this will approved that they’re competent enough. There’s no question of they’re not competent enough as for those who failed to receive the certificate, they’ll not be allowed to practice. About the exemption given will caused flood to the legal world is a vague argument as it’s not the matter of quantity but the quality itself. If let say this exemption is not given to the MMU students, there’ll still be graduated students from the public universities as well. But we never questioned whether or not they’re flooding out the legal world as we comparing to the exemption given to those students from MMU. This exemption should be welcomed as the quality of those who graduated from MMU which allowed to practice will be controlled by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board. And furthermore, this exemption will be observed every 2 years by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board to make sure that the requirement is achieved by the students.
have the authority ever consulted with lawyers out there whether they will prefer to hire one with CLP or one from MMU?
I agree with RIZZALORA. Future Lawyers at ATC, BRICKFIELDS, and so on the other colleges where the learned totally INTERNATIONAL LONDON STRUCTURES of LAW they shouldn’t be compared to the MMUans Future Lawyers because they learned totally MALAYSIAN LAW which is the same syllables as the other GOV Funded Universities such as IIU,,UM,,UKM..and UITM. The main Fucntion of CLP is that, to make sure the future lawyers graduated from LONDON BASED LAW who desired to be a qualified as MALAYSIAN lawyer not a LONDON lawyer so this CLP will make them WELL Equip with the MALAYSIAN BASED LAW. so what is the problem when it comes to the EXEMPTION of CLP towards MMUans future lawyers where they allready learned the Totally 100% MALAYSIAN LAW? we can Distinguish clearly the reason Y MMU are eligible for the EXEMPTION of CLP..
and on the point of this Exemption will downgrading the Quality of Lawyers in Malaysia? because of The MMU had not enough Experience in Teaching LAW as well as the Low Requirements?
Simple answer for that, LAW degree is the highest percentage of Dropouts in the world.. because its well known of its super difficulties.. so if there are INEPT lawyers from MMU? He or she is no longer consider as MMU’s students .. beacuse the one who stays.. is the one who can survive.. so if U came from a low result of SPM and STPM or even a related DIploma.. no matter what it takes U have to kick UR ass off to survive as a LAW students in MMU.. otherwise U will Be kick out.. so No point saying that MMU downgrading the Quality of Lawyers in the future..
and on the point of saying MMU is still young in teaching LAW therefore MMU not eligible to received CLP Exemption? Guys, How do evaluate ones Maturity on certain things? Some people on this planet even if they reach the age of 35years old.. they have yet to reach the Maturity level.. sometimes people who are only 18years old can think better than this 35years old citizen because this 18years old teens reach the maturity level earlier. what is this shows ? its shows U the level of exposer of someone can have.. MMU is an INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY.. MMU is not a COLLEGE.. MMU has enough FACILITIES to CATER their students that came from all over the world..
so the Evaluation does not only took place because of the Education itself.. The facilities.. Abilities and Capabilities also being calculated into account..so I hope that MMU will Be the BEST LAW SCHOOL not only NATIONALLY but INTERNATIONALLY as well … Thank you
With all due respect to Mirack and some of the other commenters fiercely defending the LPQB’s decision , the issue here does not *merely* revolve only around MMU’s capabilities of catering to an “international” crowd, or the adequacy/quality of the law degree offered by the private university. The impact of this decision will not affect MMU graduates alone.
Exempting MMU law grads from the CLP examinations inevitably sets a precedent that will ripple throughout the legal scene in Malaysia. Even though the exemption is subject to a review every 2 years, it is highly unlikely that its prized status would be revoked in a blink of an eye anytime soon once granted. Hence, MMU may experience a flood of applications for the coming intakes of its law foundation/ degree programme itself.
At a glance, it seems rather unfair that students of a private college will be able to escape the much-dreaded CLP while other students, who are following non-local syllabuses are still subject to it.
However,other private colleges like Brickfields/ATC/Taylors will find it hard to be able to cry foul over the non-exemptions of their respective courses from the CLP . The English law remains the basis of the external UoL LLB and UK Degree Transfer program syllabuses, unlike MMU/UiTM/local universities, whose focus remains centered on Malaysian law. The difference however, may not be as vast as some parties paint it to be- Malaysian law is also mainly rooted on the common law legal system, and most law graduates who have completed a non-local degree have encountered no problems in adapting what they have learnt to put into practise here.
If MMU is granted this prized exemption, what is there to stop other private institutions from following in its footsteps now; by setting up a similiar 4-year law programme catering to “Malaysian law” in order to get around the CLP? We would have scores of private law schools churning out graduates by the dozen, flooding the market with an overwhelming supply.
The real fear of ” lowering the standard required to be a lawyer” as DareToWish puts it, is in a way rather justified. Should the scenario in above materialize, private institutions of higher education would be tempted to lower the entry requirement threshold in order to admit more students and milk them for all their worth. Argue as you might over standards and integrity, but quality takes a backseat whenever business concerns and education cross paths. Without a proper qualifying exam, it will be difficult to discern the quality of these graduates, be they local or foreign educated.
Whatever happened to the proposed Common Bar Course for *everyone*? That seems like a fairer move in my opinion.
Again. its about fairness, Flood, Lowering Standards of Lawyers in Malaysia, and so forth. Em..
LPQB Were very satisfied and very happy when they first came to MMU while evaluating the LAW students performance there. whether About their Education performances or Practice. Both Factors are well meet the demand that LPQB wants. so If.. ATC, BRICKFIELDS, and TAYLORS want to be Exempted from CLP too
because everyone seems to follow other people foot step so then, why don’t they try to invite LPQB to visit and evaluate them? em… one of the main and very3 important Requirements to recieve the exemption, it must be Malaysian Based Law. so Understood. if other Private University so suddenly wants to Build LAW school the same as MMU which is 4years and so called ” EASILY ” got exemption? why don’t they try to do so.. so we take look then what will happen next.. will they face the same EASILY get exempted.. if they not.. then understood how hard MMU work for that.. Why Lawyers must afraid of Flood?? its Competition.. if U think U R the best or good lawyer what do U afraid of? Employers will take a look for UR pointer rite? and UR involvements in, let say Debate : if U R the best debater or the best speaker in Malaysia or even in the world ( like MMU are now producing ) it won’t be a problem for U.. Spotlight will be more on U then. moreover if U won the International Mooting competiton or even National level.. that will be extra advantage.. if U can see UITM.. IIUM UM MMU UKM they are in the same lavel when it comes to National and International Debate Competition as well as Mooting Tournaments..
not just that , they also won a lot of best prizes.. so .. MMU is one of them.. most of them are LAW students who shines.. em… Clearly we can see Malaysian Based Law Performances from Public Uni are the same as MMU..
its getting funny now. hehe We don’t even have to discuss the issue that doesn’t raise by the problem.
because its irrelevent. we need to understand the fundamental of the problem that occured at the first place.
Why MMU as Private university be given CLP exemption while other colleges not?
- 1. Agree with the above.
a) MMU is an INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY Level.
b) MMU is FULLY Malaysian Based Law.
c) MMU syllables are the same as IIU, UITM,UM,and UKM.
d) LPQB themselves satisfied and very happy with MMU future lawyers on their QUALITY of education
performance and practice.
e) MMU produce many BEST Speakers, Debaters , Mooters in Many International Tournaments n National too.
2nd level : Why other colleges such as ATC, BRICKFIELDS , TAYLORS and so on, they are not given the CLP
exemption?
a) They are not MALAYSIAN BASED LAW.
- Mostly External of London based law.
3rd level : How to get CLP exemption for ATC, BRICKFIELDS, TAYLORS and so on. ( because its unfair, that MMU
can why they can’t?
a) They need to change the Syllables to B Fully Malaysian Based Law as in UM, IIU, UKM, UITM n MMU.
4th level : if MMU can have it, it will leads to many other private LAW school to B like MMU and Downgrading or
Lowering the standards of Lawyer. because its too easy. it also will cause FLOOD. and bad to LAW
industry?
Answer : why Lowering and Downgrading Lawyer in Malaysia. MMU Syllables are the same as IIU, UM, UITM, and
UKM. meaning UKM UM UITM IIU and UITM they are lowering the standard too? just because the
stipulated requirements for LAW in MMU is a bit LOW then it will leads to Bad Lawyer?
requirments for ATC and Brickfield also not higher than MMU. If the students failed in doing their LAW
studies..because they came from really2 bad SPM or STPM or Diploma Result? then they will be That
college or that University dropouts. They will no longer be a Future Lawyer. No problem as bad Lawyer..
because they are not even eligible 2b one. All Law school contains of HUGE WORKLOADS and very
difficult LAW education. Espcially when MMU syllables are the same as other Public Uni, MMU has the
same level of HIGH STANDARDS OF MALAYSIAN LAW education.
The problem still arise when people keep questioning the Eligibility of MMU to recieved the Exemption. while it already being stated clearly, for many times its about FULLY MALAYSIAN BASED LAW. why so hard to understand?
very simple to distinguish.
The problem also still arise, on the idea of ” it will cause flood ‘??
why we have to be afraid of Flood?
This flood there are good future lawyer too. ( allready being explained on how it will be in the above )
Flood will leads to healthy competition..
healthy competition will leads to QUALITY and PRODUCTIVITY enhancement..
its a positive idea.. why afraid..? at the end of the day..
Malaysian LAW industry will be very competitive and superb.
whats the problem with that?
To the posters above, no one is doubting/lamenting the quality of the *degree* itself at MMU-only the impact of the decision, so my apologies if the previous comment stomped on the toes of some.
As for the concerns raised being “irrelevant”, I would beg to differ indeed.
All over the world, lawyers are also required to sit for professional qualification exams at the countries which they intend to practice in, be they local/foreign graduates. These exams serve as a measure of control of standards expected by the profession. However, what makes the other exams different is that there are no exemptions practiced. Each and any law graduate,be they local/foreign, must sit for the exams should they intend to practice.
If so, why should Malaysian local law grads, (be they from UM/UiTM/MMU/UUM), be exempted from the CLP? Why make the public doubt their legal strengths and competence by letting them bypass the test? Just as there are good/bad local law graduates,there are many equally bright/lousy ones who have returned from foreign soil.
The best thing to do would be to subject *all* law graduates to a standard qualifying exam. It’ll stop all this hue and cry for once.
Let’s make this clear: as far as entry requirements go, Malaysia probably harbours pretty low standards.The mere requirement of 2 or 3 principal passes at pre-university level, generally speaking, do not reflect the mental dexterity/level of intellectual strength needed to read law. A huge amount of work goes into obtaining a law degree and what lies beyond is no walk in the park indeed, so hats off to those who’ve made it so far.
“do not reflect the mental dexterity/level of intellectual strength needed to read law”. Well, I do not think we should question the ability of students by their spm results. In my opinion, that is very unfair. Most students perform better in universities and it does not mean that if that is the qualification, it means the students who enter the law school are all low standards. And how sure are you Multimedia University’s law students will produce lousy ones? As far as i am concerned, what i have read in the newspaper is that they actually won the international mooting competition at the in Hong Kong. That is pretty impressive for new law school that produce good speakers. Even Malacca Bar Council have been supporting their law events for all this while and they will constantly check the standards of law students in that university. I do not think it will be a problem. To the law school of Multimedia University, prove that the students are very high in standards. After all, they already get the CLP. Congratulations to the Law school of Multimedia University. Keep up the good work and all the best to the law students, we support you!
whateva it is,congratulations to MMU n UUM for obtaining the recognition status from LPQB…
the most important thing that we’re supposed to highlight here is…
even though the law course in certain public or private universities got the exemption status,but it doesnt matter actually…
the best way to see whether you’re good future lawyers or not is during the chambering time!
anyone can prove to me that all LLB Holders from UM,UIAM,UKM,UITM,UUM,MMU,n other universities became lawyers after the graduation?
so,please accept what decision had been made!
GRATEFUL n IMPROVING OURSELF is the best policy in life!!!
Yeah I totally agree with Aminfirdaus and Stalfia. MMU is Excellent. just accept it. Learn that…
guys, be it local law universities or private/foriegn universities,obtaining a law degree is no easy task…every law students have strived really hard to obtain their degrees…however the foreign law programme students,the unlucky ones i wud say faces more hurdles than the local/malaysian based students to prove themselves as a good future lawyers… a big part of these foreign based programme students pursue their degree in law at a foreign cty or by doing external programmes not because they r not qualified according to da local uni levels or to show off their financial abilities…but bcoz of the limited seats offered in local universities n those quota thing..so to carry on with their dreams to become a lawyer they have to scrape every cents from their parents to get a law degree and end up facing a very difficult exam to pass (CLP) to gain entry to da legal profession…
i admit the reason for CLP is to make sure foreign return students are aware of malaysian based law..but where does malaysian law comes from??..our law is adapted from varios countries like England,India and Australia… Why would the foreign return students then r required to go thru a difficult course of CLP just to understand the workings of malaysian law…in fact in practice today,lawyers are referring to case laws n recent judgement from UK to handle their case here..the foreign law degrees students especially those who are doing the external programme (Uni of London) are working so hard to obtain their honours degree,they have to wait for the study materials sent by the uni for them and all their papers are marked in UK,not by your own Lecturers!! though all these hardwork n pressure for getting a degree is gone thru yet they cant practice b4 they face another challege called CLP.this is what i meant by an unlucky bunch of students/graduates for not being able to practice juz bcoz of some exam based qualification needed from them…
from my point of view, i wud suggest that even local universities/malaysian based law programmes take a 3years programme for all the theoratical studies n obtain a law degree. then both the local degree students n foreign degree students must go thru a course as suggested by da government,da CBC n CBE to learn about the practice in malaysia. with these common bar course n exam, students can be distinguished whether they are only book/memory based students or are they the dynamic n comprehensive students that we need in the world of legal profession. by this filteration,be it local law degree student or foreign law degree student,only the best wud enter the legal profession n at da same time fulfill the other goal of CLP originally that is to avoid the floodgate of lawyers.. with this proposal implemented there wud be a more fairer handling of local n foreign law degree students…
CLP shud be scrapped bcoz those who r bookmocks cud pass da exam but not everyone of them can succeed in the real world of legal practice and vice versa those who did not pass CLP might become a more successful lawyer if they were given a chance..
i end by congrating MMU for all their achievements…since MMU have such best students,they will definitely succeed in CBC n CBE if it was implemented and become malaysia’s most successful lawyers..all the best to all..
law course in MMU was just introduced a few years ago. i think it’s very unfair for the other private university students and also to local public university student. it need super good grade to get into local public university lilke UM but in MMU, their entry requirements is basically very low. unfair. totally unfair. they shouldn’t be exempted from taking CLP
Just make MMU admission requirement become minimum 3As in STPM or even 4As in STPM. This should be fair to everyone.
I went along to LPQB yesterday to see the CLP results & it was so depressing to see that out of more than 1000 students only +/- 200 passed (including those with conditional passes).
While we will not dispute LPQB decision to allow all the local U (& MMU) to be exempted from the dreaded CLP, it certainly reek of discrimination since places in the IPTA are so difficult & governed by a quota system. I believe the CLP results year in & out also suffer from the same quota system.
I agree with one poster who mentioned that parents & students sometines have to scrape every sen they have to get through law school & only to be subjected to this last hurdle of CLP.
Please bring one the common Bar entrance exam & then only we can say, yes all lawyers in this country have been equally & fairly judged & qualified. Until that day come - the doubts will linger & there goes 1 Malaysia!
if MMU got this privilege,why not the IPTA,like UDM (have u all heard about it), got it too.studying local msian law for 4 yrs would be wasting of time if the LPQB does not exempt us (UDM law graduate) from CLP.we have studied what the other local IPTA had studied,they can easily go for chmbering after finished their 4 yrs study.how about us???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it must be noted that the aim for taking CLP course is just to make the foreign law graduates familiar with Msian Legal System, as to make them a qualified person under LPA,therefore it’s ridiculous for the local law graduates who sacrificed their 4 yrs studying LOCAL LAW for taking CLP which is so costly n lower possibility to pass (is it true?)
haiiiiito every one ,i am emmanueal here ,i just finish my stpm tis december,i have a few ouestion ,can any one help me
i am 19 now ,n waiting 4 my stpm result next year march,[2010]..but after my spm ,i apply 4 court interpreter job through suruhan jaya perkidmatan awam.n recently after a week i finished my stpm at ipoh anderson sek ,i got tis job ,n nw iam working in ipoh high court meanwhile waiting 4 my result ,my interest is to stdy law,n my purpose to work as a interpreter for tis two years is to get exposer n experience especialy in court,my plans are to do my degree in law when iam 21 years,honestly i prefer n interested to stdy in mmu,but i am woried about the fees n expenses,is it high,besides gaining experience as ainterpreter,i also plan to save some money to further my study,bcoz my financial background is nt tht gud,may i know beside malaca ,is mmu campus in kl,n based frm any seniors frm mmu ,which campus do u prefer,and how is the studying enviroment in mmu,is te lecthurers helpfull,plsss reply me,i am realy planing to stdy in mmu.oh ya another soalan in mmu are the many law students,thank u very much,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,may god blees u my bro n sis who reply,oh ya my spm result is 7 b3,n nw waiting 4 stpm result,hope seniors frm mmu can help me
is there any foundation programe or course have to go through if we apply through spm ,n wat the diference if apply based stpm,if stpm can do degree terus r ,corect me if ia mwrong,tq veri much
MMU didn’t win international moot competition in HONG KONG, they just Runner-up (2nd place)
Source: http://www.redcross.org.hk/web/moot6/6th%20IHL%20Moot-list%20of%20recipient.pdf
Amazingly UUM also clinched the same position this year.
Source: http://www.redcross.org.hk/web/moot8/8th%20IHL%20Moot_list%20of%20recipient_100323.pdf
Both UUM and MMU law students are impressive… beating some of the world’s best law schools (Hong Kong, Chulalongkorn, Monash), just don’t underestimate them.
Law studies aren’t easy in these institutions. Believe me, i know that.
emmanueal joseph dass..i’m 19 like u too..:) I’m gng to MMU for Foundation in Law..coz my stpm results didn’t meet the requirement for degree. My language is powerful mind you. I am blessed enough that I was given the offer to do Foundation, that way I can build myself up once again. Law is only available in MMU Melaka Campus. If you do want to know more, here.. http://www.mmu.edu.my That’s MMU’s website.
Although I know I haven’t given out much information, I hope it helps in some way. God Bless You~
definitely struggling law student…as one of the UUM Law students,we had proved da best for LPQB in granting us da recognition status.for instance,our UUM mooting teams for SYARIAH moot competition n IHL moot competition were placed as finalists n amazingly,da team of IHL moot competition had represented MALAYSIA for da IHL moot competition at HONG KONG,beating da top law schools(MONASH,NSU,etc)…so,in simple conclusion,please don’t underestimate us coz we had already proved sumetin…
to all LAW STUDENTS at UUM n MMU,WE ARE DA BEST AND WE DESERVE TO GET THE RECOGNITION STATUS!
Our name has been put into the LPA by a gazette dated somewhere around 2009. Please check them out before u point fingers and making unwanted allegations.
In 2010, MMU is the Runner up for the Jessup Moot Court Competition, we’ve proven to be on par with other well established universities like UM UKM etc. Please respect us law students from MMU and UUM.
hi. may i know MMU accept AIMST foundation certificate or not? urgent. reply asap.. thx~
It is interesting how each side to this argument agrees and disagrees adding new arguments and mutating the original article about MMU law graduates being granted an exemption from the CLP as the route to practice law in Malaysia. It fails to deal properly with issues if any raised by that claim about the CLP waiver in the article.
Competition in any field, especially something as vital as the practice of law, critical to a developing nation as Malaysia is, should be welcome at every level rather than stymied.
To suggest the CLP makes good lawyers is a dangerous statement. One merely has to observe the performance of one Karpal Singh at the inquiry into the death of Teoh Beng Hock to be able to determine if the CLP has in any way embellished his legal credentials as a practitioner. It is not personal but merely an invitation to assess the performance of a leading Malaysian advocate of the system presumably the product of the CLP regime.
To take the matter a step further, would one consider the performance of VK Lingham on the widely circulated video now widely accepted as fact, the worth of a CLP candidate? the list can be widened in every which way but……. it is not necessary.
At the end off the day it is not the university or degree that makes a lawyer. It is the other way around. A degree or a university merely legitimises and adorns the intellect and talent you already inherently possess perhaps embellishing it as well in the process. All a degree or admission to professional status does is to show you the door, And depending on your quality it could be the door in or out of your field of choice.
Gopal Raj Kumar
Ha Ha Ha, I read all your comments and even try to understand some Ha Ha Ha, so naive.. I would love it if you guys graduate and come out to be lawyers!! You guys are easy!!
Its the type of response that one is witness to not just on a casual blog like this from the likes of “Neil” but also similar comments ansd responses to serious discussions in real life, that makes one wonder what the real criteria is for graduating to practice as lawyers in Malaysia.
The moronic grammar and senseless He he ha ha from a grown person that decides that those posting here are ‘easy’ (but easy for what he does not say), thats worrying.
is there any foundation in law programmes available in there???